Hi everyone. I'm trying to use some of the skywater high voltage transistors in a design and am seeing huge Vds voltage drops in my design across these. Are the threshold voltage/resistances of these in saturation really that substantial? I measured the threshold voltage to be closer to 700-800mV in a separate test using the linear region extrapolation method, so does this discrepancy just come from short channel effects? Here is the transistor in series with a 1 mega ohm resistor, and I still see 1.5V drop across it. I just want to make sure I am not missing something and that this result is expected. Thanks.
1 Meg resistor and 3.5 V. 3.5 uA. There is a noticeable body effect there also, as there is a VBS = -3.5 V. This must have increased the transistor VT by almost 1 V, I guess. A better testbench would be to replace the resistor with a current source. Maybe short the gate and drain to node A and short bulk and source terminals.
Luis Henrique Rodovalho
07/25/2022, 11:28 PM
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Xtx A A 0 0 sky130_fd_pr__nfet_g5v0d10v5 W=0.75 L=0.5
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Jesse Cirimelli-Low
07/26/2022, 9:10 AM
Thanks Luis. Using the topology you suggested I see a 960mV drop over the transistor which is more in line with what I was expecting. The high body effect makes sense as an explanation. My application uses the transistors as bidirectional pass transistors, with the nmos coupling a high voltage to a relatively high resistance load, so maybe I will have to use a full transmission gate (I was trying to save on area).
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