for an on-chip realization, do you need that whole output stage shown in the linked page?
I've often seen on-chip op amps that act a bit more like OTAs without a buffered output stage and they're sufficient for driving on-chip loads, especially capacitive ones like FET gates of further stages/feedback.
For a fully diff amplifier I did in the past, the common mode feedback op amp was the simple/minimalistic 5-transistor OTA and that was more than enough for the CMRR and stability I needed
drey
09/11/2022, 3:52 PM
I only recently came across sky130 and don't have the toolchain up and running yet (I research at a university that's cadence based, and it looks like cadence support isn't mature/ready yet), so this is more a generalist comment from my experience on tsmc180 and tsmc65
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Shabbar Vejlani
09/11/2022, 4:02 PM
Thanks for the info. For 5 transistor OTA tail current ref how do you go about generating?
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drey
09/11/2022, 4:13 PM
I'd share a current reference if one was already available for other circuits, but the tail current isn't too critical on its own so I could theoretically see someone getting away with simpler than a temperature-compensated bandgap reference + v->i conversion
drey
09/11/2022, 4:13 PM
I have no idea what that does to PSRR though; I'd need to actually sit down and verify my claim (which is based on intuition) before being more sure of it
drey
09/11/2022, 4:14 PM
Unless sky130 has good linear resistors I'd probably stay away from the style of biasing that's used in the linked article
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